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Postby Paul on Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:34 am

Interesting story about HP's ink tanks that could be programmed to self expire.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4293427.stm

Edit, wrong company name quoted. :oops:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:56 am

Very interesting.... very interesting indeed.
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Postby kipper on Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:26 pm

So typical of HP. I refuse to buy anything from HP anymore after my HP6L Lazer printer which has a design fault causes like 10 sheets to go through at once.
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Postby gstark on Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:49 pm

kipper wrote:So typical of HP. I refuse to buy anything from HP anymore after my HP6L Lazer printer which has a design fault causes like 10 sheets to go through at once.


The HP5 series does it too.

Nice to see they've fixed the problem. :(
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Postby stubbsy on Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:53 pm

gstark wrote:
kipper wrote:So typical of HP. I refuse to buy anything from HP anymore after my HP6L Lazer printer which has a design fault causes like 10 sheets to go through at once.


The HP5 series does it too.

Nice to see they've fixed the problem. :(

That's interesting. I have a HP 5MP that hasn't missed a beat since I bought it in 1996 and it gets heaps of use.
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Postby gstark on Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:13 pm

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kipper wrote:So typical of HP. I refuse to buy anything from HP anymore after my HP6L Lazer printer which has a design fault causes like 10 sheets to go through at once.


The HP5 series does it too.

Nice to see they've fixed the problem. :(

That's interesting. I have a HP 5MP that hasn't missed a beat since I bought it in 1996 and it gets heaps of use.


Take it back; it's obviously faulty. :)

I've heard of this problem (multiple page feeding) from other users of the 5 and 6 series too.

Which model is the MP? The 6L and my old 5? are the small, personal/SOHO units that they made; there were other more industrial sized units also designated as HP5 variants, but they were, as I'm indicating, bigger units and used a different engine.
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Postby kipper on Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:17 pm

The HP website in the states provided a DIY fix it kit that was shipped to you. I ordered like 6-8 of the packs because I thought it would always be handy to have spares. All the kit did was attach a bit of plastic by double sided adhesive to the feeder. Still sometimes feeds multiple sheets.
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Postby stubbsy on Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:28 pm

Gary wrote:Which model is the MP?

The M stands for Macintosh and the P for postscript - this means it's a 5 series with Postscript in the ROMS and it has a Mac appletalk connector in addition to the standard parallel (or serial - not sure which) PC connector. I used to have it hooked up to both a Mac & a PC at home and I did a fair bit of programming in postcript hence the Postscript.
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Postby gstark on Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:07 pm

Peter,

Sounds like it might be the same base model; what's it look like?
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Postby stubbsy on Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:22 pm

gstark wrote:Peter,

Sounds like it might be the same base model; what's it look like?

Well I was about to go looking for a product shot, then it occurred to me this is a camera forum :lol:

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And I guess the black thing next to it is my dirty little secret.
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Postby Oneputt on Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:48 pm

Where I get my office cartridges refilled they told me the same thing, and they actually offer a service of changing the chip for free.
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Postby gstark on Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:00 pm

Peter,

stubbsy wrote:[Well I was about to go looking for a product shot, then it occurred to me this is a camera forum :lol:


I was wondering which way you'd jump on that. :)

That is a very different model from the L series, in terms of layout, and, I suspect, engine. The paper path - which would be the source of the problem - is quite different, which would possibly explain why your's actually works.
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Postby stubbsy on Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:16 pm

Gary wrote:I was wondering which way you'd jump on that.

So - did I pass or fail?

and FWIW I think this is a lousy pic - lighting is wrong , I used flash but should have used natural light, I shot in Auto and theres the Caxox thing :oops:
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Postby gstark on Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:11 am

It's like the HSC - there's no pass or fail; every player wins a prize. :)

But you done good. :)
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:24 pm

I also have the 6mp - second hand from someone who got it secondhand from someone else but was never using it. I love it, quick, relatively quiet and I've had very few issues with paper once I put some decent quality copy paper in it..

I install printers every day with my job, mostly small home printers or the occasional larger laser for a small office. I have always disliked HP and now loathe them for all new reasons.

Did you know the printer/scanner software that comes with HP PSC's weighs in at around 1GB? The software to run a printer and scanner is over 5 times the size of a standard Windows 98 install..

A bloated company writing bloated software.. where've I heard that before? *g*
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Postby sirhc55 on Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:27 pm

I remember the days when MicroSoft Word was installed with 32 floppies :roll:
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Postby dooda on Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:22 pm

The car industry does this I was told. Some set the paint up to deteriorate after 7 years. Others make the parts obsolete after 7 years. Others (GM) set the engines up to automatically fall completely out of the bottom of the car after 4 years. Volvos, well they are the exception.
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Postby atencati on Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:20 pm

How did I miss this one. My brother had a HP 5 series that would quit printing with the cartridges still partially full of ink. We could pull them out and stick them in my dad's knock off Apollo printer that used the same cartidges and they would work futher.

I suspect more than just HP of this gag, my brother All in one does the same thing. Cartridges are still half full but it makes me change them out anyways and will not print anything if any of the cartridges reads low.

NEVER BY A BROTHER PRINTER!!!!!!!

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Postby Oneputt on Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:23 pm

My HP has now gone and I have bought Cannon :D
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Postby stubbsy on Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:54 pm

Oneputt wrote:My HP has now gone and I have bought Cannon :D

I've always had Canon ink printers (BTW - is Canon the most misspelled brand name or what) and never had a problem. They have a little prism in the bottom of the ink cartridge and measure the light diffraction through the ink to tell you when its time to replace the cartridge. When it says its empty its empty.
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Postby Oneputt on Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:07 pm

Stubbsy - my sincerest of apologies. I should have written Canon. There is that better :D :wink:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:07 pm

Canon's ink isn't ridiculously overpriced *cough*Epson*cough*HP*cough*
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Postby stubbsy on Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:12 pm

Oneputt wrote:Stubbsy - my sincerest of apologies. I should have written Canon. There is that better :D :wink:

No need to apologise. I see Canon spelt with 2 n's all over the place. I was just having a "Greg B" moment :wink:
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