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				From Blackheath to Jenolan Caves
				
Posted: 
Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:05 pmby Hlop
				Few more photos from that amazing weekend. Some taken on Saturday in Blackheath, some - on the road from Blackheath to Jenolan Caves
Also, I should confess that on Saturday, when everyone went to the pub (where we could not go because Taya is 15) we went to the other side of railway and I manged to take a couple of sunset photos. Didn't want to tell to no one until I check if there is anything good 
 http://hlop.net/gallery/Blackheath
http://hlop.net/gallery/Blackheath 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:16 pmby Matt. K
				Michail
You were a busy boy! Nice work! The lighting up there was pretty crappy but you sure made it work for you. Like your close-up of the waterfall...trying to figure out what lens you used?
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:08 pmby Hlop
				Hi Matt,
It was 80-400VR with tripod
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:48 pmby leek
				Mikhail, 
Nice shots, but some of them look so familiar... 
 BTW
 BTW: I might be wrong on this, but I think that the waterfall is Bridal Veil Falls... Horseshoe Falls are to the North of Govatt's Leap Lookout...
 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:51 amby Hlop
				leek wrote:Mikhail, 
Nice shots, but some of them look so familiar... 
 BTW
 BTW: I might be wrong on this, but I think that the waterfall is Bridal Veil Falls... Horseshoe Falls are to the North of Govatt's Leap Lookout...
 
Aw, thanks John. I didn't really know the name, so, i made my wrong conlusions based on the map
 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:49 amby sirhc55
				Mikhail - some great shots as a prelude to the caves - what a weekend 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:35 amby stubbsy
				Mikhail
The 1st shot of the falls is good, but the second shot (image 3 on the site) of them is awesome - shows of the 80-400 VR well.  DId you have VR off for the shot, given you were using a tripod?
I really like the first 2 shots at Collier lookout too (the thrid one just doesn't work, but I'm not sure why)
The shot of the two windmills - I'd be incline to completely crop out the foreground area to remove the fence.
Another fine bunch of photos from you.  Thanks for sharing them.
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:33 pmby Hlop
				Chris, Peter, thanks!
Peter,
VR was ON because it was to windy and my little manfrotto tripod might be shaken
			 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:37 pmby birddog114
				Hlop wrote:VR was ON because it was to windy and my little manfrotto tripod might be shaken
1/ "VR On" won't work with tripod and result is blurring! Spot on!
2/ Great to hear your experiences about the Manfrotto leg was shaken caused by windy, hehehehehe 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:32 pmby Hlop
				Birddog114 wrote:Hlop wrote:VR was ON because it was to windy and my little manfrotto tripod might be shaken
1/ "VR On" won't work with tripod and result is blurring! Spot on!
2/ Great to hear your experiences about the Manfrotto leg was shaken caused by windy, hehehehehe 

 
1. VR ON works on tripod fine - my night images of 
Opera House and the City were made wit VR ON on tripod. No blurring
2. Not exactly. It's wasn't shaken by wind - it's a Pro Loop strap was waving by wind and it was shaking the camera.  So, I'm going to continue using it and not going to buy new one in the nearest future 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:13 pmby W00DY
				Birddog114 wrote:
1/ "VR On" won't work with tripod and result is blurring! Spot on!
Birdy, 
Can you exlain why using the VR function with a tripod would make the image blurry???
I don't understand that  
 
 
W00DY
 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:13 pmby birddog114
				Hlop wrote:Birddog114 wrote:Hlop wrote:VR was ON because it was to windy and my little manfrotto tripod might be shaken
1/ "VR On" won't work with tripod and result is blurring! Spot on!
2/ Great to hear your experiences about the Manfrotto leg was shaken caused by windy, hehehehehe 

 
1. VR ON works on tripod fine - my night images of 
Opera House and the City were made wit VR ON on tripod. No blurring
2. Not exactly. It's wasn't shaken by wind - it's a Pro Loop strap was waving by wind and it was shaking the camera.  So, I'm going to continue using it and not going to buy new one in the nearest future 

 
1/ My experiences and its manual mentioned: "VR OFF" when on tripod. I stick with the book and my knowledges.
2/ I have Pro Loop Straps hanging on my cameras and it was windy at the Heads same as Blue Point shoot on "my cheap" tripod, but my cameras were steady and no shaken!!!!!! 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:14 pmby birddog114
				W00DY wrote:Birddog114 wrote:
1/ "VR On" won't work with tripod and result is blurring! Spot on!
Birdy, 
Can you exlain why using the VR function with a tripod would make the image blurry???
I don't understand that  
 
 W00DY
 
Read the manual 

 
			
		
			
				
				
Posted: 
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:37 pmby birddog114
				Nikon states that the VR should be turned off when the lens is mounted on a tripod. I have used it with VR on when on a monopod with no adverse effects. The reason for this is the gyro is meant to dampen the movement caused while handheld, if there is no movement because it is locked down on a tripod the VR will fight against this. 
and another of my thoughts
In situations when you don't need VR as when shutter speed is fast enough to avoid shake the advantages of turning it off are 
1. VR slows down acquisition. The focus is just as fast, but you have to wait for the VR system to engage. If you shoot while it's still engaging, you get a very blurry shot. 
2. VR drains battery power pretty significantly.