 
Tamron70-300@85mm,F4.5,1/50sec, manual exposure
 
Sigma18-50@50mm(cropped)F29, 1sec (in an attempt to show a running stream blurred - not shown here) Manual exposure -tripod of course.
Comments appreciated
Sean

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		 2x outdoor B&W portraits from todayHere are a couple from this afternoon of a Dad and daughter at the cascades Sydney. 
   Tamron70-300@85mm,F4.5,1/50sec, manual exposure   Sigma18-50@50mm(cropped)F29, 1sec (in an attempt to show a running stream blurred - not shown here) Manual exposure -tripod of course. Comments appreciated Sean  "The more I learn, the less I realise I know" 
 Good shots Sean, I like your BW conversions.
 The first shot is my favourite, there are all sorts of stories which could be drawn from it, the setup is good, I like it a lot. Number two is good too, but I think for a portrait it could be a bit tighter on the subjects. Also, they look a bit unhappy. Greg  - - - -  D200 etc Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer 
 Sean - #1 is excellent composing and the B&W adds to the depth of emotion shown.
 #2 - yes a tighter crop would improve the composition but I must admit I like the fact they are not smiling - deep thought  Chris -------------------------------- I started my life with nothing and I’ve still got most of it left 
 I think both are terrific and i reckon dad and daughter would be well pleased with those results. Steve.  |D700| D2H | F5 | 70-200VR | 85 1.4 | 50 1.4 | 28-70 | 10.5 | 12-24 | SB800 | Website-> http://www.stevekilburn.com Leeds United for promotion in 2014 - Hurrah!!! 
 Love that first shot as well. Nice expressions & poses which have a nice character & charm to them. Great soft lighting for exposure of the face as well as adding a little bit of rim light from behind & to (their) right to delineate them from the shadows (esp. the father). Great PP as well to capture the tones in the scene.
 Second shot doesn't quite do it for me. The rocks are too sharp compared to the subjects and don't overlay well. I guess its a hazard of long exposure, but it makes them look less in focus and more superimposed than part of the scene to me. Not sure I like the pose/expressions as much either. Cheers Joolz 
 
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