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			 by biggerry on Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:01 pm
 Had a interesting session (with Suren) at North Curl Curl Pool on sat morning, sky lack clouds, exculding a small layer on teh horizon. There was few other keen photographers having a crack there too, hopefully they will make the discerning choice and head over here (DSLRusers) for a visit. Feedback welcome, good, bad or ambivalence.. Pre-dawn outflow  Sunrise outflow, i am not overly happy with teh final result, I am sure there is a good image in there but I don't think my PP effort has gotten it over the line. I am keen for feedback on this image.  There was beautiful tones in teh west, however it was hard to nail the composition without the added drama of having to clone out peeps.  Post dawn outflow  
			
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			 by Remorhaz on Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:27 pm
 biggerry wrote:Had a interesting session (with Suren) at North Curl Curl Pool on sat morning, sky lack clouds, exculding a small layer on teh horizon.
 Yep - sorry I couldn't make it   Pre-dawn outflow
 I like most of the compo here and the colours in the top half are very nice. I think the bottom half is too cool tho (if you switched to LR4 you could do a selective grad WB adjustment   ). I'm not sure how I feel about the juxtaposition of the curvy natural rocks on the right with the very linear manmade on the left - I think it may grow on me. It's the fence tho that I think is making it too unbalanced. Sunrise outflow
 The minor thing first - it looks like it curves or even tilts to the right    and it feels like it is all bulging out. You could probably selectively slightly warm the bottom of this one as well (to a lesser degree). I was originally going to suggest a lower viewpoint but that's not going to work. A much higher one might have worked but not practical I assume. Actually now that I've looked at it more it may be just that the middle railing which I assume you wanted to be level with the horizon isn't straight - perhaps just shoot straight on with the middle of the lens across the rail so it and the horizon are level and then pano crop later? There was beautiful tones in teh west
 I'm not feeling this one - the water canyon and the cool ridged rock surrounding it are interesting but the rest not so much for me. I'm not sure if it might have looked better without the polariser so the water in the crack was all just reflective. Post dawn outflow
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			 by PiroStitch on Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:15 pm
 The pre-dawn overflow is the best out of this selection.  The tones, lighting and composition are spot on.  
 With the sunrise outflow, I keep wondering what it would look like if it was lower and the sun was just behind the railing (may not have been possible).
 
			
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			 by surenj on Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:42 pm
 Gerry this series is very impressive considering the poor conditions the other day! Mine turned out very washed out and low contrasty and I wonder whether my dirty polariser was to blame?     1st one is spot on I reckon. You've done a great job of taking out the grad lines! Is this a HDR from brackets?? 3rd also very good. I wonder whether you have any from those rays we had? I missed them as I was concentrating on the other side. 
			
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			 by biggerry on Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:46 pm
 arrggh, i look back now and the only one I like is the first... Remorhaz wrote:Yep - sorry I couldn't make it 
 sorry i could not make sunset...chaos was busting my nuts. Remorhaz wrote:I like most of the compo here and the colours in the top half are very nice. I think the bottom half is too cool tho (if you switched to LR4 you could do a selective grad WB adjustment ). I'm not sure how I feel about the juxtaposition of the curvy natural rocks on the right with the very linear manmade on the left - I think it may grow on me. It's the fence tho that I think is making it too unbalanced.
 hahah, LR4, your funny     that does sound somewhat handy, however a simple grad selection and correcting the cast has been available in CNX2 since, well since I started using it   I guess the whole blueish issue with water is a tricky one, its easy enough to desat or correct it, however sometimes the colour can compliment. See the image below for a example of correcting (for lack of better term) the WB in the water. Remorhaz wrote:The minor thing first - it looks like it curves or even tilts to the right and it feels like it is all bulging out. You could probably selectively slightly warm the bottom of this one as well (to a lesser degree).I was originally going to suggest a lower viewpoint but that's not going to work. A much higher one might have worked but not practical I assume. Actually now that I've looked at it more it may be just that the middle railing which I assume you wanted to be level with the horizon isn't straight - perhaps just shoot straight on with the middle of the lens across the rail so it and the horizon are level and then pano crop later?
 all images seem to tilt, not overly fussed i guess, i probably should actually level my monitor one day. The bulge is very noticeable now that you point it out, CNX2 does not do a good job here, i think PS  and its distort control may be in order. I wanted a higher possie, however I had maxed out my tripod and was still 4 foot short of where i wanted to be.     Remorhaz wrote:I'm not feeling this one - the water canyon and the cool ridged rock surrounding it are interesting but the rest not so much for me. I'm not sure if it might have looked better without the polariser so the water in the crack was all just reflective.
 the real colour was off to the left, however there was a bug in my view, certainly could have done better here. PiroStitch wrote:The pre-dawn overflow is the best out of this selection.  The tones, lighting and composition are spot on.  
 With the sunrise outflow, I keep wondering what it would look like if it was lower and the sun was just behind the railing (may not have been possible).
  
			
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			 by biggerry on Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:52 pm
 surenj wrote:Gerry this series is very impressive considering the poor conditions the other day! Mine turned out very washed out and low contrasty and I wonder whether my dirty polariser was to blame?     1st one is spot on I reckon. You've done a great job of taking out the grad lines! Is this a HDR from brackets?? 3rd also very good. I wonder whether you have any from those rays we had? I missed them as I was concentrating on the other side.
 yeah 1 is turning out to be a keeper. what size is your thread, you can try my CPL next time..probably next weekend.. 1 was a single shot , there was not alot of dynamic range since it was 90 degrees to teh sun, the GND was angled across and you can see teh darkening in teh rails. check teh rays in the reposted one.. 
			
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			 by aim54x on Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:16 am
 I cant believe that you guys went out to shoot whilst I am away....great to see some shots all the same CameronNikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura BlackScout-Images | Flickr | 365Project 
			
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			 by Remorhaz on Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:48 am
 biggerry wrote:arrggh, i look back now and the only one I like is the first...
  hahah, LR4, your funny     that does sound somewhat handy...
 Come on - you know you want to do it   I wanted a higher possie, however I had maxed out my tripod and was still 4 foot short of where i wanted to be.    
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			 by stubbsy on Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:26 pm
 PiroStitch wrote:The pre-dawn overflow is the best out of this selection.  The tones, lighting and composition are spot on.
 +1 from me.  This is a superb example of this technique.  The uniformity of the water in the channel makes it look like liquid smoke.  A cracker shot. 
			
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			 by CraigVTR on Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:37 am
 Out of all the shots I like the last reposted shot the best, not sure why but it seems to have more balance to me. CraigLifes journey is not to arrive at our grave in a well preserved body but, rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, "Wow what a ride."
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			 by surenj on Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:14 pm
 Sorry Gerry, I meant to say #4 was very good. #3 not so strong and too HDRy. On second look, I think 4th is the best shot.    
			
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			 by biggerry on Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:42 pm
 Remorhaz wrote:...standing on Suren's head?  
     stubbsy wrote:PiroStitch wrote:The pre-dawn overflow is the best out of this selection.  The tones, lighting and composition are spot on.
 +1 from me.  This is a superb example of this technique.  The uniformity of the water in the channel makes it look like liquid smoke.  A cracker shot.
 Thanks Peter/Wayne. CraigVTR wrote:Out of all the shots I like the last reposted shot the best, not sure why but it seems to have more balance to me.
 I agree, the last is growing on me the water needs a bit of refined tweak and hopefully it may get a rating   surenj wrote:Sorry Gerry, I meant to say #4 was very good. #3 not so strong and too HDRy. On second look, I think 4th is the best shot.   
     dodgy timelapse herehttp://youtu.be/2q0et8YMD94 
			
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			 by surenj on Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:25 am
 Gerry was that a HDR time-lapse or just high midtoned...? 
			
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			 by norwest on Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:44 am
 I like each shot, but #1 if forced to choose. Very well done. I wonder if i could get enough swell stirred up i could do similar shot at Yarrie lake or perhaps the Namoi River?    
			
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			 by biggerry on Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:47 pm
 surenj wrote:Gerry was that a HDR time-lapse or just high midtoned...?
 tonal contrast.     norwest wrote:I like each shot, but #1 if forced to choose. Very well done. I wonder if i could get enough swell stirred up i could do similar shot at Yarrie lake or perhaps the Namoi River?   
 I am not sure about the brown tones    even at sunrise or sunset brown still looks...well brown    
			
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